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From: Jaromir Nemec
Sent: October 17, 2006
To: IRM
Subject: IRM Back to Prabhupada

Dear Prabhu,

Please accept my humble obeisance's.
I have had a glimpse of the IRM web page and I will frankly admit that I consider your attempt to bring ISKCON “Back to Prabhupada” as a futile attempt which smacks of cultism. I´m resentful of the very idea that His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada, founder acharya of ISKCON (and not of IRM as stated on your web page), should be seen by anyone as a messianic figure. His untimely departure from our mundane vision may well have been timely according to Lord Krishnas´ will. Also, it is a historical fact which has been proven true time and time again – after the departure of a great empowered acharya there is a period of trouble, dissension, deviation and schisms.

To consider His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada as a transcendental messiah of Vaishnavism for generations of devotees is to me a gross misunderstanding of the Vaishnava culture, etiquette and philosophy. Messianic movements are of a Judeo-Christian and Semitic tradition. The expectation, nay the religious fervour, with which messianic sects in Judaism and Islam worship a teacher, rabbi, imam etc. has a fanatical undertone, which is virtually absent in the noble Vedic tradition. Certainly Vedic tradition accepts the notion of avatar – incarnation of God. We all know (or at least I hope we know) that Srila Prabhupada was not an avatar. He never would have tolerated to be considered as such. He was a true Vaishnava evangelist. The messianic worship of Srila Prabhupada was and remains to a large extent an anomaly, which unfortunately is scarcely assessed by anyone. I fancy considering Srila Prabhupada as an evangelist, rather than a messiah. In fact Srila Prabhupada honoured His Divine Grace Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakur Prabhupada as “the evangelic angel” and not as a messiah.

Mixing of rasas, rasa-bhasa, has always been the problem in ISKCON. From the very start American and European devotees, often born and educated in Judeo-Christian and Semitic traditions, brought many aspects of messianic ideology into ISKCON. Thus Prabhupada – Messiah photographs became the dominating iconography in ISKCON. There is scarcely a wall or a locker door without his photo in any ISKCON temple in the world. There are hundreds of murtis of Srila Prabhupada, notably those of oversize dimensions such as the ones in Vrindavan and Mayapur.

 Of course for disciples of Srila Prabhupada, his servants, his students, it is mandatory to worship Him as God. But no one else should be entitled or even expected to do the same. This is not the Vedic system of parampara. After Srila Prabhupada departed it was obvious, that newcomers to Krishna consciousness should have their own teachers, initiating gurus and acharyas. The problem was not the authorised process of disciplic succession. The problem was rasa-bhasa.

The undeniable fact of massive fall down within the ranks of the new teachers and acharyas in the past thirty five years of the history of ISKCON has more than the reasons cited in the IRM, i.e. betrayal of Srila Prabhupadas´ ”Final Order” by scrupulous rascals and other conspiracy theories. There is also the problem of messianic interpretation of Prabhupada. Right after the departure to Goloka of His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada his godbrother in Navadvip, the later B.R. Sridhara Swami, declared Prabhupada to be a shaktiavesha-avatar. This statement only stirred the messianic spirit within ISKCON. New teachers and acharyas started to be considered by their godbrothers, disciples and students as would-be or could-be messiahs too. Why would any bona-fide ISKCON guru be less than Prabhupada? If Prabhupada was an avatar, messiah, my guru is also one. Messianic ideology, as a specific ISKCON rasa-bhasa, caused pain and a lot of misunderstanding both within and without ISKCON. In the Semitic and Judeo-Christian traditions there were and still are plenty of cases of murder and poisoning with resultant tribal and state wars. This is the result of fanatical messianic claims.

Messianic preaching is exclusive. Evangelic preaching is inclusive. It includes all races, colours and creeds. Of course the forced missionary “evangelisation” in Asia, Africa and the Americas by the Christians was nothing but messianic preaching. So was the forced conversion of Africans to Islam. Many Christian evangelists were nevertheless inclusive. Some missionaries still live in Asia or Africa, included in the local life style, respectful of the native peoples´ creeds and rituals.

An evangelist is he who awakens the dormant love of God in every ones´ heart by bringing people good news from the All-good and All-mighty Lord. On principle an evangelist does good to others. He may be a Christian, or he may be rearing from what people generally describe Hindu or for that purpose Buddhist traditions. Evangelists are usually loved by everyone irrespectively of religious denomination. They truly possess the power to infuse love of God in the hearts of many people.

Let respect be given where respect is due. An evangelist is not only loved – he is respected, revered in some cases. But a true evangelist abhors to be seen as a “messiah” by his followers. His Divine Grace A.C.Bhativedanta Swami Prabhupada, founder acharya of the International Society for Krishna Consciousness, was an evangelist in the true sense of the term and as such he was accepted by his students, his sincere listeners and readers as well as by thousands of outsiders. He was (and still is) the teacher at whose feet countless teachers sit – Prabhupada.  Teachers, gurus, acharyas continue, and should continue to exist after the disappearance to our mundane eyes of this empowered acharya, the first and foremost teacher in ISKCON and the founder acharya of ISKCON, Srila Prabhupada.

 In as much teachers following Srila Parbhupada remain true to the evangelic ideals of their spiritual master, the parampara is maintained. But if instead of being true evangelists, to whatever extent that is possible at their level of spiritual realisation, they prefer to play the role of shrewd manipulators and sense enjoyers, than fall down is the logical consequence. Evangelists do not cheat or chat. Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati was an evangelic angel. Others may be just simple, common evangelists. I would strongly argue in favour of this title – evangelic angel – for His Divine Grace A. C Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada as well. Srila Prabhupada – the evangelic angel. But under no circumstances am I in favour of considering Prabhupada a messiah who “built a house where the whole world can live”.  All this is for me just messianic hogwash.

The bare fact that the evangelic efforts of Srila Prabhupada and His disciples in the sixties and seventies were in the eighties and nineties replaced by shrewd salesmanship of commercial consumer items, if not by straight out fraud, is a reason for fall down of those messianic leaders of ISKCON, who perpetrated and propagated such deviations. It is pure logic. If I work for a company, I must stick to its goals. If my boss would find out, that I´m working for myself or for some other person during my job, he would fire me on the spot. To serve as a “peon” of God, to be an evangelist, means talking for God, acting for God and teaching others about God. Being an evangelist implies a humble and sincere service attitude. If instead of serving the evangelic mission of Srila Prabhupada we sell junk and lie to people day in day out, what do we expect? That Prabhupada gives us his blessings? No! We´ll get fired. 

In conclusion I would like to reiterate my point concerning the futility of your endeavour. It may sound a little harsh, but I doubt that anybody or anything can stop an idea from beings successful when its time is ripe. Evidently the time was ripe for a “Hare Krishna explosion” in the US in the late sixties and seventies; the times in the eighties and nineties weren´t.  

But who knows? The waves of the fathomless holy ocean of samkirtan come and go. Perhaps in a few generations things will look different and there will be hundreds, thousands, millions of acharyas. There will be no scarcity of acharyas!

In the service of Srila Prabhupada, founder acharya of ISKCON and “Back to Godhead”.

Humbly yours

Jay Gurudev das. (Jaromir Nemec)
ISKCON Prague , Czech Republic



From: IRM
Sent: October 22, 2006
To: Jaromir Nemec
Subject: IRM Back to Prabhupada

Dear Prabhu,

Hare Krishna! Please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada.

Thank you for sharing your opinion with us.

However at the IRM we prefer to follow the orders of Srila Prabhupada, rather than anyone’s opinion, especially when, as in your case, it is not supported by even one statement from Srila Prabhupada. You are resentful of Srila Prabhupada being seen as a messianic figure, but according to Srila Prabhupada, anyone who comes to deliver the fallen souls should be seen as a messiah:

“In Satyaloka the inhabitants are fully cognizant of Vedic wisdom, and thus the mystic cloud of material energy is cleared. Therefore they are known as the Vedas personified. Such persons, being fully aware of knowledge both mundane and transcendental, have no interest in either the mundane or transcendental worlds. They are practically desireless devotees. In the mundane world they have nothing to achieve, and in the transcendental world they are full in themselves. Then why do they come to the mundane world? They descend on different planets as messiahs by the order of the Lord to deliver the fallen souls. On the earth they come down and do good to the people of the world in different circumstances under different climatic influences. They have nothing to do in this world save and except reclaim the fallen souls rotting in material existence, deluded by material energy.”
(SB, 1:19:23)

Indeed even Lord Caitanya, in his role as a devotee of the Lord, is also to be seen as a messiah:

“All the messiahs—saints who have come before or who will come in the future to preach the transcendental message of the kingdom of Godhead—are to be understood as the most confidential servants of the Personality of Godhead. Lord Jesus Christ appeared as the son of Godhead, Muhammad introduced himself as the servant of Godhead, and Lord Caitanya presented Himself as the devotee of Godhead. But whatever may be their identity, all such messiahs were of the same opinion about one thing.”
(Message of Godhead)

Since you are so resentful of such messianic figures, whether in Vaisnavism or other religions, I suggest you find yourself another path which does not have such figures.

In ISKCON, you object even to the GBC side ‘over-worshipping’ Srila Prabhupada as a messianic figure, with his picture and murti everywhere, and of course we must not forget the mandatory daily guru-puja of Srila Prabhupada for everybody in all ISKCON temples.

As to whether or not our attempt will be futile, your following statement is contradictory:

In conclusion I would like to reiterate my point concerning the futility of your endeavour. It may sound a little harsh, but I doubt that anybody or anything can stop an idea from beings successful when its time is ripe.”

If nothing can stop an idea from being successful ‘when its time is ripe’, then if the time again becomes ripe for everyone to accept Srila Prabhupada as the only messiah, then according to you nothing will be able to stop this, and therefore our endeavour will be completely fruitful rather than futile. And as you yourself admit, we do not know how the future will turn out. So let us just wait and see. In the meantime I wish you the best in your search for a non-messianic path.

Good luck and Hare Krishna!

Thank you.

Your servant,

Krishnakant,
Editor, Back To Prabhupada.


From: Jaromir Nemec
Sent: October 29, 2006
To: IRM
Subject: RE: IRM Back to Prabhupada

Dear Prabhu,
You propose to worship Srila Prabhupada as a messiah. Srila Prabhupada proposed to worship Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu as messiah. Who should I follow? You or Srila Prabhupada?

Your most fallen,  wretched and excomunicated rascal.
Jaya Gurudev das

 

From: IRM
Sent: October 30, 2006
To: Jaromir Nemec
Subject: RE: IRM Back to Prabhupada

Dear Prabhu,

Please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada.

So I am glad to see that you have finally accepted the principle of messianic worship, having completely rejected it in your last mail as being of Judeo-Christian and Semitic tradition. So you have asked if you should follow Srila Prabhupada or me. But until recently you were refusing to follow even Srila Prabhupada, since you had rejected in principle the concept of messianic worship for ANYONE. So the fact that you are now willing to follow Srila Prabhupada is very good. This is a good start, and it will enable you to return to Vaishnavism. Having now accepted the concept of messianic ideology, it will only be one more step to see how this also applies to Srila Prabhupada. Indeed Srila Prabhupada has stated in the quote I sent you before that messianic worship is applicable for anyone who comes to deliver fallen souls. So surely you are familiar enough with Srila Prabhupada’s life to know that he had come to the world to deliver the fallen souls.

So you should accept Srila Prabhupada came to deliver the fallen souls, and is therefore a messiah according to this quote, and also accept Srila Prabhupada’s instructions such as the July 9th directive which he co-signed to be applied in ISKCON. Please do not make the mistake of rejecting Srila Prabhupada’s July 9th directive, just as you had earlier rejected Srila Prabhupada’s instruction regarding messianic worship.

I look forward to hearing from you.

Thank you.

Your servant,

Krishnakant



From: Jaromir Nemec
Sent: October 31, 2006
To: IRM
Subject: RE: IRM Back to Prabhupada

Dear Prabhu,
Unfortunately you have not answered my question. I will formulate it differently: You propose to worship Srila Prabhupada as an avatar (Vedic equivalent of messiah). Srila Prabhupada never proposed such a thing. Srila Prabhupada proposed to worship Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu as an avatar. Who   should  I follow?  You  or  Srila  Prabhupada?

Humbly yours
Jay Gurudev das

 

From: IRM
Sent: November 01, 2006
To: Jaromir Nemec
Subject: RE: IRM Back to Prabhupada

Dear Prabhu,

Please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada.

Again you have revealed your complete unfamiliarity with our Vedic tradition. A messiah’s vedic equivalent is NOT an avatar. As already explained, Srila Prabhupada refers to anyone who is a great preacher as a messiah – he does not reserve the term only for avatars. The following quote should make the matter extremely clear:

Prabhupada: Every one of us messiah. Anyone Krishna conscious, he's the messiah. Every one. Why one? All of us. Gaurangera bhakta-gane, jane jane sakti dhari, brahmanda tari saksi(?): "The devotee of Lord Chaitanya, every one has so immense power that every one, they can deliver the whole universe." Gaurangera bhakta-jane, jane jane sakti..., brahmanda tari... That is Gauranga's men.
(Room Conversation, April 15th, 1977)

Hence ANYONE who is Krishna conscious and a powerful preacher, and follower of Lord Caitanya is a messiah. Not just Lord Caitanya.

So you began by saying there were no messiahs in Vaisnavism.

Then you thought that only avatars are messiahs.

Now you will see that actually anyone and everyone can be a messiah, as long as they become Krishna conscious and a big preacher.

So in conclusion:

a) Anyone can be a messiah, even YOU, if you become Krishna conscious and become a big preacher.

b) Thus there are many people who are fit to be regarded as messiahs, not only avatars.

c) In ANY CASE, the IRM has never stated that Srila Prabhupada is the ‘only messiah’. Indeed we have never used this Hebrew word to refer to Srila Prabhupada. Being followers of the Vedic tradition, we refer to Srila Prabhupada using the Sanskrit terminology which he gave us, and hence we refer to Srila Prabhupada as the DIKSA GURU, as stated in his July9th directive, Last Will and Testament and other places.

So as you can see, it is not us, but YOU, who is influenced by the Judeo-Christian tradition, such that your attempts to mix your Judeo-Christian thinking with the Vedic tradition, has resulted in you making some very elementary errors. Hence since you have only just returned back to Vaisnavism, I would suggest you first refresh your understanding on the basic concepts of our Vedic philosophy before writing again to us, and making more foolish errors.

Thank you.

Your servant,

Krishnakant


From: Jaromir Nemec
Sent: November 03, 2006
To: IRM
Subject: Messiah

Dear Prabhu,

I am very sorry I have bothered Your Grace and the IRM with my remarks and “foolish errors“. No doubt you are yourself a messiah, big preacher. You are fulfilling the sacred mission to implement the July 9th directive. In your valiant (yet futile) effort you have defeated so many opponents, including His Holiness Tamala Krishna Goswami. I assume from your letters, that you know there are 81“messiah“hits on the Bhativedanta Veda Base. Thank you for having stated the relevant one, which confirms CLEARLY your messianic identity. His Holiness Tamal Krishna Goswami said in the mentioned conversation, that he did not consider himself worthy of being a messiah. His Divine Grace Srila Prabhupada answered in a most unequivocal fashion: „Like father, like sun. You should be…“ So you also are a messiah.

As you have not answered my questions, I think it´s better just to forget about the whole issue. Rest assured - I will not follow you and the IRM despite your alleged messianic identity. There are unlimited relevant directives His Divine Grace left for me in store in His immense treasure house of transcendental literatures, lectures, room and morning walk conversations that I can easily get around without being in the least bothered by the directive from July 9th 1977, of which you have become the crusader.

So dear Prabhu - please accept my humble obeisance's!

All glories to His Divine Grace OM Vishnupada Paramahamsa Parivrajakacarya 108 A .C. Bhativedanta Swami Prabhupada. He lives eternally in His instructions and His followers live with Him.

Jay Gurudeva das

 

From: IRM
Sent: November 12, 2006
To: Jaromir Nemec
Subject: Messiah

Dear Prabhu,

Please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada.

So let us review your continued confusion about the term messiah, which has now come full circle      

a) First you claimed that there is NO concept of messianic worship in Vedic Culture.

b) Then you claimed it applied ONLY to Lord Chaitanya and not Srila Prabhupada.

c) Then you claimed that the definition of the word messiah is ‘avatar’ or divine incarnation of Lord Krishna.

d) Now you claim that even I, Krishnakant, is a messiah!                                 

So having started by claiming NO ONE is a messiah, you are now proclaiming everyone is! And all this just in 4-emails.

Your ‘questions’ were based on assuming one of the false concepts outlined above, and therefore can only be answered once these false concepts are eliminated from your questions, and the questions are reformulated correctly using Vedic principles, and not the messiah mess you have been preaching so far.

You also are now proud to boast your disobedience to Srila Prabhupada, claiming you do not wish to be ‘bothered’ by Srila Prabhupada’s final directive on initiations issued to his society. You sign off your letter stating that “Srila Prabhupada lives eternally in His instructions and His followers live with Him”, but a ‘follower’ is someone who actually follows these instruction, rather than ensuring he is not ‘bothered’ by these same instructions.

Thank you.

Your servant,

Krishnakant

 

From: Jaromir Nemec
Sent: November 12, 2006
To: IRM
Subject: Re: Messiah

Dear Prabhu
Messianic claims CLEARLY are of Judeo-Christian and Semitic tradition. They have TRULY nothing to do with the transendental Vedic version, as propounded in the Srimad Bhagavatam. From Vedic point of view the "upadharma" preached in these traditions misses the point of  Love of God "sanatana dharma", as preached and propounded by the followers of the Vaishanava tradition. Whilst I agree that the "upadharma" of the monotheistic tradition (also called yavana and mlechadharma) has some moral credit, Vaishnava literature and traditions go beyond mundane morality. The highest morality is to be an eternal servant of Godhead. Just the bare chanting of Hare Krishna makes one a pure lover of Godhead.That is UNIQUE. No avatar ever gave so magnanimously God conciousness and love of God as Lord Chaitanya Mahaprabhu did five hundred twenty years ago. His followers, beggining with the six goswamis of Vrindavana and continuing in recent history notably with His Divine Grace Srila A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada, are just as magnanimous as Lord Chaitanya. They are not messiahs as in secterian mlecha and yavana traditions of Judeo Christianity. They spread the gospel of Lord Chaitanya and thus they are the most dedicated transcendental evangelists. Anyone who spreads the gospel of love of God as preached by the Mahavadanyaya Avatar - Lord Chaitanya - should be considered as magnanimous as Lord Chaitanya. Like father, like son.The gift is UNIQUE. Not the rhetorics. They all distribute freely pure love of God.

Vaishnavism is (or at least I believe it should be, shouldn´t it?) beyond sectarian, messianic claims. Whoever, for whatever reason, mixes material concepts (such as puffed up "massianic claims", in the sence I have desribed in my initial letter to you, material lust, greed and envy, jealousy, conceit etc.etc.) with the purely transcendental nature of the movement of Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu, is commiting rasa-bhasa. Ultimately he commits guru-aparadha and vaishnava-aparadha. These always were and always will be cause of fall down.

Conclusions:

1. Back to Prabhupadas´ teachings and instructions, his guidelines, his "evangelic" and dedicated chanting and spreading of the gospel of Lord Chaitanya Mahaprabhu; back to his humility, purity, honesty, dedication, consistent service to Guru and Gauranga, his Krishna Conciousness - yes .

2. Back to  Prabhupada as  the only initiating diksha guru in ISKCON, despite the fact he left for the realm of Goloka Dhama nearly 30 years ago - no

All glories to His Divine Grace Om Vishnupada Paramahamsa Parivrajakacharya 108 A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada. His reasons ill who thinks that a Vaishnava dies. A Vaishnava dies to live, and living spreads the holy names of Krishna around.

Kind regards and humble obeisances
Your
Jay Gurudev das.



From: IRM
Sent: November 13, 2006
To: Jaromir Nemec
Subject: Re: Messiah

Dear Prabhu,

Please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada.

In your last mail to me you announced:

“As you have not answered my questions, I think it´s better just to forget about the whole issue.”

Yet just a few hours later, you again did a flip-flop and decided to once again keep the issue alive.

As I have already demonstrated, via your flip-flop of titanic proportions, where you went from NO messiahs to anyone is a messiah, to engage in instant contradictions, mail after mail, is your trademark. And as with all things ‘titanic’, your claims have all been well and duly sunk with the correct application of Vaisnava philosophy.

I completely agree with you that it is not wise to mix “puffed-up messianic claims” with our Vaisnava philosophy.

So let us review WHO has made such messianic claims:

a) It was YOU who in your first e-mail to me, introduced this Hebrew word ‘messiah’, and CLAIMED that the IRM are pushing Srila Prabhupada as the ‘messiah’, and that actually there are NO messiahs in vaisnavism. So 2 ‘messianic claims’ already.

b) Next you claimed that ONLY Lord Caitanya is the messiah, and that Srila Prabhupada is NOT the messiah.  2 more ‘messianic claims’.

c) Next you claimed that the word messiah means avatar. 1 more claim.

d) Then you finally claimed that Krishnakant is the messiah. Another claim.

So it is YOU, who has already introduced at least *6* false ‘messianic claims’, and tried to mix these false messianic claims of yours with the correct Vaisnava philosophy as given by the IRM.

You also claim that Srila Prabhupada is NOT the only Diksa Guru for ISKCON. Please give us the NAME of WHO ELSE is the Diksa Guru for ISKCON, stating, WHERE, WHEN and HOW they were specifically authorized by Srila Prabhupada to replace the Ritvik system he left for ISKCON, on July 9th, 1977. Of course if you even attempt to answer this question, you will have once again contradicted yourself, having decided to now ‘bother’ with the July 9th directive, which you had just proudly announced you will ignore.

I look forward to your latest contradictory statement, oh great purveyor of messianic claims.

Thank you.

Your servant,

Krishnakant

 

From: Jaromir Nemec
Sent: November 13, 2006
To: IRM
Subject: RE: Messiah

Dear IRM editor,
I was hoping against hope to find some reasonable and logical plateform  for discussion with  you,  not only as the publisher of IRM, but as a Vaishnava. Unfortunately you systematically reject any reason and logics. You keep  turning and twisting my words around, just to suit your fanatical purposes. Like the cultist Jehovas´ Witnesses, you are a cultist Prabhupadas´ Witness. Your "arguments" are nothing but base demagogy: anyone who has even a slightly different view than yours must, by all means, be proven wrong. That is the mission of  a fanatic.
So go on with your fanatical, cultist crusade against infidels (though they may be Vaishnavas) who dare to have a different view than yours. I can only reiterate my initial statement: you and all the supporters of your IRM demagogical crusade are propounders of messianic claims. You create dissention,  you spread  fanatisism and ultimately you are hurting the reputation of the very  person you are trying to glorify. Not only are your efforts futile, they are straight out blasphemous.
Kindly consider our "communication" as ended here.

In the direct service of His Divine Grace Om Vishnupada Paramahamsa Parivrajakacharya Sri Srimad A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada
Jay Gurudeva das

P.S. You always signed your letters "your servant". So do me a favor and do not write to me anymore, nor give my e-mail address to other fanatics like you. Thank you.

 

From: IRM
Sent: November 14, 2006
To: Jaromir Nemec
Subject: RE: Messiah

Dear Prabhu,

PAMHO AGTSP

If you wish our communication to be ‘ended’, then do NOT reply to this mail.

Let us see who has been using reason and logic.

Your ‘logic and reason’ consists of calling us: fanatics (5 times), cultists (3 times), demagogical (twice), blasphemous, dissension creators, who hurt Srila Prabhupada’s reputation.

If this is your version of a ‘logical and reasonable’ platform, I would hate to see what a tirade of childish insults would look like!

Whereas we have not twisted and turned any of your words, but supported every one of our arguments with direct quotes from yourself. Here is a reminder of one such instance. You stated:

“You propose to worship Srila Prabhupada as an avatar (Vedic equivalent of messiah).”
(Jaromir Nemec, 31/10/2006)

An avatar is NOT the Vedic equivalent of a messiah.

Thus we have not twisted or turned anything you have said, but relied on it directly.

We will not pass your e-mail onto anyone.

Let’s hope you will be able to control yourself this time, and actually execute your claim to have ‘ended’ the communication, as you tried once before and failed.

I look forward to NOT hearing from you!

Thank you.

Your servant,

Krishnakant

 

Please chant: Hare Krishna, Hare Krishna, Krishna, Krishna, Hare, Hare,
Hare Rama, Hare Rama, Rama, Rama, Hare, Hare.
And be Happy!