Back To Prabhupada, Issue 79, 2024, Quotes, Notes & News
GBC Guru Reacts After BTP Exposé
In the BTP 76 article "Srila Prabhupada Teaches Guru Means Himself", we showed GBC voted-in guru HG Kripamoya Dasa ("KMD") preaching that whenever Srila Prabhupada described the guru in his teachings, Srila Prabhupada was talking about himself. KMD thus unwittingly adopted the IRM's position that Srila Prabhupada never taught about anyone other than himself being the diksa guru for ISKCON.
Apparently, after becoming aware of KMD's admission, his GBC voted-in guru colleague HH Sivarama Swami ("SRS") confronted KMD about it and called it "very surprising", and disagreed with what KMD had stated:
"I've had this discussion with a senior devotee who proposed that in Prabhupada's book when he talks about Guru he's talking about himself. Which is a very surprising argument. [...] Prabhupada doesn't personalize that principle of Guru [...] whatever you read about Guru applies to your Guru [...] means every Guru whether later on they turn out to be super exceptional or they turn out that somehow or another they betrayed their position"
(SRS, Disciple Meeting on "Guru-tattva", 1/9/23)
Thus, SRS claims that when Srila Prabhupada speaks about the bona fide guru, he could just as easily be talking about gurus who "betrayed their position" instead of himself. SRS's GBC guru colleague HH Jayadvaita Swami ("JAS") has stated that this betrayal has involved ISKCON gurus having "illicit sexual intercourse with both women and men, and possibly children as well" (JAS, "Where the Rtvik People Are Right")! If anyone, when they read Srila Prabhupada's descriptions of the guru in his books, genuinely believes that Srila Prabhupada could in theory just as easily mean "paedophile" rather than himself, then their delusion is so deep that they have yet to understand even the very basics of guru-tattva.
Srila Prabhupada Is Never Separate
GBC voted-in guru HH Partha Sarathi Dasa Goswami ("PSG") claims that:
"We should never separate Prabhupada from the guru-parampara and we should never separate the guru-parampara from Srila Prabhupada. In other words, it doesn't stop or end at Srila Prabhupada."
(PSG, Vyasa-puja Lecture, 7/10/23. Emphases added.)
Thus, PSG claims that if Srila Prabhupada remains as the only current link to the parampara for ISKCON, then this would mean that he is separated from the parampara. However, we already know:
1) That being the Acarya of ISKCON does stop or end with Srila Prabhupada. This is stamped all over the books of Srila Prabhupada that PSG supposedly reads, which make clear that Srila Prabhupada will always remain the "Founder-Acarya" (Founder and Acarya) of ISKCON. And it has been shown that this means he will also remain ISKCON's diksa guru – please see previous article.
2) Srila Prabhupada has never taught the wacky "parampara disappearance" theory whereby if he was to remain as the diksa guru of ISKCON for "too long" and not be succeeded within a certain time limit, then – poof!– he will magically disappear from the parampara, and become "separate" from it. Rather, if such diksa guru succession orders from Srila Prabhupada actually existed, one would just quote them, instead of concocting such magical theories.
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